#anti binotto

[myimaginarywonderland]

Replacing Seidl, someone who was a big successful history in Motorsport with Binotto, who is an honest to God meme because of how bad he did as a TP, feels like a very strange choice.

[juliet-ohara]

I fear the binotto finger wag is permanently haunting garage 16 at silverstone

[p6to]

High-ranking people at Audi being replaced by Mattia Binotto due to a power struggle?

I’m not even taking out my tinfoil hat when I say that this alleged power struggle consists of them not being the Sainz-favouring team principle the Carloses want.

Mark my words: Carlos to Sauber announcement before the summer break

[gaslightgirlsummer]

hey, either I haven't come across this particular carlos interview, or I just didn't find what he said this time that stupid, but care to share what interview made you write that post? maybe I'm just missing something. (not that in theory I'm not all for alex in ferrari, bc that'd be so good omggg.)

the article i was talking about is one that was published yesterday by motorsport week, where carlos decided to say this:

which would be all fine and lovely if it weren't for the fact that he and his dumpster fire of a pr team seems to have forgotten that they straight up said this was true just a few months ago

both carlos himself and laurent mekies confirmed that the car was in fact developed to suit carlos more (which also opened a whole different can of worms, because carlos prefers understeer and that makes the car slower)

he also said more absurd stuff later but these were what i was referring to in my post. it's just gotten incredibly annoying to me bc at this point he's still talking about his Wonderful Achievements of 2021 (says he would have been fighting for the wdc in the 2021 car, which. maybe let's Not.) but he's denying that the car was developed to help HIM find equal footing instead of being developed towards charles who was fighting for the championship/vice-championship, even though he admitted to it

so tldr i don't vibe with lying and victimising yourself. alex albon to ferrari 2025

[lizablackthorn]

Realistically these last two races have been the only ones Ferrari has legitimately been able to fight for. And Monza was a stretch cause we all knew their race pace ultimately wouldn’t hold up to that of Red Bull.

Carlos was just better than Charles these last two races. Plain and simple. He maximized his set-up, took control of his race strategy and fought every lap. Charles did the same but it didn’t work in his favor. He couldn’t get in sync with the car. That’s how it is sometimes. Charles was better than Carlos last year for like 70% of races. He was better with the car, better with pace, better than Carlos. This year he’s struggled throughout with consistency. Carlos hasn’t.

They’re a pretty evenly matched duo. There’s always gonna be one who comes out on top. But it doesn’t mean that the other is being sacrificed etc

The thing you miss is this car(sf-23 the absolute shitbox) is suitable for Carlos. Not Charles. Charles’ saying this from very beginning. The car is understeer. (Binotto i hope you burn in hell) And it makes is suitable and driveable for Carlos. Also you can’t tell me or convince me they didn’t sacrifice Charles this race. He said himself. It was obvious from the start. Thats why he chose the softs. Helped his teammate. Only for Ferrari. Which is something that his teammate never does. Always whines and cries about Charles on his radio. And we all watched and saw how Carlos was when he had a competitive car. He sucked because it could be a championship winning car and it was oversteer. Because he’s a mid driver and doesn’t have the talent. So I’m trying to say is sf-23 was Binotto’s last gif to Carlos. If he hadn’t his dad he would never be in Ferrari (which he never deserves).

Also i’m want to add that Carlos is never gonna be a champion. Because he doesn’t have that winner mentality.

[thearchercore]

As rancid as it is having that man in the paddock again, we all know Charles can be petty, holds a grudge and likes proving people wrong.

He will make it his mission to drive himself to wins and a championship, not even for his own benefit, but just out of the sheer fucking determination to prove that Binotto was wrong about him.

Charles is at his best when someone else thinks they can win against him.

charles will showcase profound levels of pettiness on that grid.

will never mention that man's name. will pretend he doesn't even exist. will demonize audi's races in a "if im going down im taking everybody down with me" way. will send leo to give him a judgemental side eye. will probably launch 7 internal investigations about potential illegal parts of their car. will make pierre give a shady interview about him. will wear a lowkey anti audi friendship bracelet.

[valyrfia]

Ferarri isnt winning shit lmao. The bald man is just as spineless as his predecessor and I personally think charles should just start ripping people's throats out with his teeth

guys love you but I'm not going to entertain anti-Fred takes just because he's not explicitly taking Charles' side in every interview. I think we all underestimate just how much he had to gut that team and rebuild it anew just to clear out the Binotto rot. He's building that team around Charles, he wants a Charles WDC MORE than most of us, dare I say.

[petit-papillion]

I can't help but play devil's advocate in my head whenever I see those Charles stats because yes, he's absolutely incredible, alongside the greats, but I imagine all the anti-Charles comments coming in going, "well front row starts aren't wins, so it's a useless stat".

And I started thinking, when has Carlos ever had a seemingly 'useless' stat that was positive about his results? Did he have a streak of consistency? Because I can't think of any.

Charles might have a lot of front row, pole positions, top 5 stats that people undermine, but it's a hell of a lot more than what the other drivers on the grid have. He's undeniably one of the most talented drivers.

Sure, I see where people are coming from when they say useless stats, points are earned in the race, etc. But if they're calling him out for being inconsistent: qualifying front row 7x in a row is a stat showing them the opposite. Unfortunately, I think he's made it look easy, and people just can't accept that he is working miracles in cars that don't necessarily have that pace over 50-60 laps.

And if Charles doesn't put it on pole/front row, he gets team orders to sit back during the race and not overtake (even if he has better race pace), and then he is called out for not being aggressive enough, and Ferrari firing the wrong driver, etc., etc. Mind you, when he did try to pass Carlos in Monza, people were also up in arms calling him too agggressive and risking both cars getting taken out, so he can't please people no matter what he does.

Here are just some of the things I've seen people spout recently:

I agree with you, Anon, Charles is incredibly talented, and despite some abysmal years at Ferrari under Binotto, he has achieved more than most of his peers on the grid. However, I think the expectations of Charles are extremely high, especially being a Ferrari driver. And unless we were able to compare each F1 driver's abilities to one another with all of them driving the same car, there will always be "but's". "But Alex cannot possibly win in a Williams." "But the McLaren is not as fast as the Ferrari." "But George could win as much as Max if he was in a Red Bull." Etc.

And despite him easily outperforming so many of the drivers he competed with before coming to F1, I think Charles is always going to be compared to Max. Who is also undeniably talented, but who also had a very driven dad who pushed him to train incredibly hard, who had connections & funds, plus F1 insider knowledge, all allowing Max to jump ahead and gain way more experience at a lot faster rate than his peers. And when Max is considered the standard Charles has to live up to, even getting P2 in WDC still gets you called "overrated" and "a mid-level driver".

[finoallafine97]

Verstappen humiliates binotto: "Charles very fast, hard tires were a mistake"

[fadingluminaryruins]

Please, give to this boy a miracle and a hug. 💔

(He looks so resigned. It’s heartbreaking…)

[balaclavacharles]

And fuck you Mattia.

[gaslightgirlsummer]

just saw the new interview with carlos, and i have to say, looking at this

this is not a good thing. this is a PROBLEM. this is a problem with ferrari not prioritising their better driver. charles was the one who was fighting for the championship, not carlos, so in what world, for what reason, should charles and carlos be treated equally? they’re clearly not.

“i don’t deserve that” but you do. that’s the thing, you do because that’s supposed to be the point of you! red bull has a lot of issues but the one thing they proved is that the primary-secondary driver system works and max’s world championships are tangible proof of that. carlos just can’t accept that his role in the team is supposed to be charles’ second and that’s why we get the godforsaken messes like silverstone. if that doesn’t change before 2023 we’re going to either have infighting or contract revisions and the title will be lost again, especially considering carlos also said he could become friends with charles in the future when they’re not “fighting for positions”. he think he’s fighting charles for positions when charles is trying to keep p2 in wdc and carlos is not even in the top 5. and he’s not even friends with charles because he sees his own, realistically superior teammate, as competition.

ferrari is an utter mess and carlos is a part of the problem

[aprilias]

Ferrari apparently spent 2 years building this car, there is no fucking way that they’ve spent that amount of time creating this piece of shit. Charles and Carlos both deserve much better than Binotto and whatever myth he’s sold them about the car and the championship this year because they’ve been lied to about the resources they’ve got.

[alexalblondo]

can you tell me about binotto, toto, mick and sebastian in germany at fp? I missed 2019 and 2020 entirely.

I wanna tell a fun story but actually it isn’t that exciting?

Last year for the german gp the FDA was planning on running their then juniors Callum and Mick during the FP1 … sadly though they didn’t take into account that it was the Eifel in Oktober which meant fog and awful weather and no driving for anyone :/

And okay, I think it was the anniversary of one of Michael‘s records or wins or sth?

Either way Mick had a special helmet for the occasion to commemorate that (which in itself is already great)

And well, during the FP that never was Mick and Seb met up in front of … I‘mma lie and say the Ferrari garage? And Toto was also there?

So the three had a lil get together in front of one of the garages and Mick showed them his helmet and they had fun and it was cute and all and maybe it made me a lil emotional for them and all

And well, fast forward a few days (or weeks urgh, Idk, I have shitty memory) to Binotto having a hissy fit to the media about how rUDE and disrespectful Seb was being talking to another team’s teamboss and letting himself be filmed doing that I mean? How dare he??? How could he wow?

And that‘s it. Sorry, not really that exciting :/

EDIT: I have been reminded that it was Seb who had the special Michael helmet and not Mick, wuuups

[thearchercore]

i think a lot of people are misinterpreting what this race means to charles (myself as a lecfosi and other lecfosi included)

This isn’t a revenge tour, or proof he’s the better driver, or a fuck you to binotto. Its about honoring his godfather, its about maybe finding some comfort in finishing a race he never got to, its about Charles and his relationship with Jules, with his family, on some notes with his father. I just think it is kind of cruel or weird to turn a race that means this much to him into some sort of, revenge tour anti-Sainz mission when to him it’s clearly about Jules

(no hate to anyone just something i’ve noticed)

yeah, i think there are two ends of it -- this suzuka being the 10th anniversary of jules' accident was always something that was coming, the helmet was designed a long time ago and as always, it will be a special race for charles. this 10th anniversary just makes it even more special compared to the previous suzuka races charles did:

on the other hand, it happened to get stuck inbetween this recency-bias discourse that got to so bad that even charles had to address it so this race is just another chance for him to perform well (hopefully without any external issues) to prove his skills to everyone who doubted him because of the previous race.

again, the emotional message is the highlight here and something charles was already thinking about as he was planning ahead for the season - him promising that he will do everything to get that p1 is essentially tied for that.

but the situation he ended up in after australia gives him more external pressure to perform because of what the media said about him and how they doubted him. which is not diminishing the initial goal of honoring jules' memory. it's just another external factor that unfortunately took place before suzuka that slightly impacts this race more than we'd like.

hopefully we get past that discourse quick and charles has a great race ahead of him!

[becometheknifemaster]

I am going through the 7 stages of grief. But what enrages me the most is the fact Sen is leaving the sport that he loves so much while that Harry potter from Wal mart stays at the team Seb loves so much