#anti binotto

[myimaginarywonderland]

Replacing Seidl, someone who was a big successful history in Motorsport with Binotto, who is an honest to God meme because of how bad he did as a TP, feels like a very strange choice.

[ddaelie]

«Ferrari fired wrong driver»

Can someone please explain to me how Carlos Sainz fans can be so delusional?

«I think Ferrari have backed the wrong horse. Carlos knows it as well and wants to give them this as a reminder! Good on him!!!»

«I like Charles, but my issue with him is that he’s inconsistent. Ferrari has essentially dissed Seb, Kimi and now Carlos to back him and he hasn’t proven to me that he can carry a team and win. WDC»

«Sainz is the better driver, thats why they held Leclerc on next to Lewis»

1) Just simple stats from the F1 website:

Drivers: Sainz/Leclerc

Seasons: 10/7

Grands Prix: 206/147

Podiums: 27/41

Wins: 4/8

Points: 1256.5/1405

Poles: 6/26

2) Mexico2024, Singapore2023, Silverstone2023, Austria2023

«We did a double but it wasn't my business»

«Gap to Sainz target 3 / Yeah copy, i'll try but then i'm at risk»

3)«More experienced» Sainz, who is faster only due to the new power unit.

«More experienced» Sainz, who is faster only due to DRS and cutting corners.

«More experienced» Sainz, who slowed down his teammate.

«More experienced» Sainz, around whom the car was built.

«next year's car has good modifications compared to what made him uncomfortable in 2022» - both 2022 and 2023(beginning) cars were shit. and after that someone dares to say that Charles can only win in a perfect car, while Sainz can cope with a wheelbarrow. Excuse me, but who creates this wheelbarrow?

4) «Carlos owes nothing to the team that abandoned him»

YES, he DOES. There are 20 drivers on the grid, reserve drivers and rookies from other formulas. Since you like to point out that they are drivers and they should race, understand that it is okay not to renew contracts. It is still the team he is under contract with until the last lap of the last race in Abu Dhabi.

The way he treats the team with disregard is unprofessional. Just because you're leaving a team doesn't mean you have to burn everything to hell before it.

5)«Carlos doesn't complain about Charles to the media, that's how a mature person should behave» A mature person doesn't whine on the radio for fear of being overtaken. BECAUSE IT ONLY SEEMS TO WORK ONE WAY.

Carlos Sinz be like:

Fulfil Race Agreements: ❌❌❌

Fulfil Media Agreements:✅✅✅

6) Charles: says outright that he doesn't think Carlos was favored in Las Vegas

Carlos fans: What?! Leclerc says he thinks Carlos was favored? How dare he?!

REWATCH FUCKING SINGAPORE23

7) In the end, he tries to show other teams that he is better than Charles and "they should see who they have lost", but only shows everyone that he is ready to spit on team orders, points for the constructors' championship, and thinks only about himself.

And I'm not denying that Ferrari screwed up (I'm not less angry with them) with Sainz's pit stop, I'm not saying that he HAD to give way to Charles, but again, we're talking about points for the team. All this crap with DRS could have led to Charles simply not having time to overtake Max and they would have lost points. They ALREADY lost points in Mexico, +3 DNF Sainz (+1DNF Charles, P11 and P14 during the upgrade test), he should be fighting McLaren for every point, but instead he does what he does. It's one thing to fight for your podium, and completely another to let your teammate down.

[juliet-ohara]

I fear the binotto finger wag is permanently haunting garage 16 at silverstone

[p6to]

High-ranking people at Audi being replaced by Mattia Binotto due to a power struggle?

I’m not even taking out my tinfoil hat when I say that this alleged power struggle consists of them not being the Sainz-favouring team principle the Carloses want.

Mark my words: Carlos to Sauber announcement before the summer break

[gaslightgirlsummer]

hey, either I haven't come across this particular carlos interview, or I just didn't find what he said this time that stupid, but care to share what interview made you write that post? maybe I'm just missing something. (not that in theory I'm not all for alex in ferrari, bc that'd be so good omggg.)

the article i was talking about is one that was published yesterday by motorsport week, where carlos decided to say this:

which would be all fine and lovely if it weren't for the fact that he and his dumpster fire of a pr team seems to have forgotten that they straight up said this was true just a few months ago

both carlos himself and laurent mekies confirmed that the car was in fact developed to suit carlos more (which also opened a whole different can of worms, because carlos prefers understeer and that makes the car slower)

he also said more absurd stuff later but these were what i was referring to in my post. it's just gotten incredibly annoying to me bc at this point he's still talking about his Wonderful Achievements of 2021 (says he would have been fighting for the wdc in the 2021 car, which. maybe let's Not.) but he's denying that the car was developed to help HIM find equal footing instead of being developed towards charles who was fighting for the championship/vice-championship, even though he admitted to it

so tldr i don't vibe with lying and victimising yourself. alex albon to ferrari 2025

[lizablackthorn]

Realistically these last two races have been the only ones Ferrari has legitimately been able to fight for. And Monza was a stretch cause we all knew their race pace ultimately wouldn’t hold up to that of Red Bull.

Carlos was just better than Charles these last two races. Plain and simple. He maximized his set-up, took control of his race strategy and fought every lap. Charles did the same but it didn’t work in his favor. He couldn’t get in sync with the car. That’s how it is sometimes. Charles was better than Carlos last year for like 70% of races. He was better with the car, better with pace, better than Carlos. This year he’s struggled throughout with consistency. Carlos hasn’t.

They’re a pretty evenly matched duo. There’s always gonna be one who comes out on top. But it doesn’t mean that the other is being sacrificed etc

The thing you miss is this car(sf-23 the absolute shitbox) is suitable for Carlos. Not Charles. Charles’ saying this from very beginning. The car is understeer. (Binotto i hope you burn in hell) And it makes is suitable and driveable for Carlos. Also you can’t tell me or convince me they didn’t sacrifice Charles this race. He said himself. It was obvious from the start. Thats why he chose the softs. Helped his teammate. Only for Ferrari. Which is something that his teammate never does. Always whines and cries about Charles on his radio. And we all watched and saw how Carlos was when he had a competitive car. He sucked because it could be a championship winning car and it was oversteer. Because he’s a mid driver and doesn’t have the talent. So I’m trying to say is sf-23 was Binotto’s last gif to Carlos. If he hadn’t his dad he would never be in Ferrari (which he never deserves).

Also i’m want to add that Carlos is never gonna be a champion. Because he doesn’t have that winner mentality.

[thearchercore]

As rancid as it is having that man in the paddock again, we all know Charles can be petty, holds a grudge and likes proving people wrong.

He will make it his mission to drive himself to wins and a championship, not even for his own benefit, but just out of the sheer fucking determination to prove that Binotto was wrong about him.

Charles is at his best when someone else thinks they can win against him.

charles will showcase profound levels of pettiness on that grid.

will never mention that man's name. will pretend he doesn't even exist. will demonize audi's races in a "if im going down im taking everybody down with me" way. will send leo to give him a judgemental side eye. will probably launch 7 internal investigations about potential illegal parts of their car. will make pierre give a shady interview about him. will wear a lowkey anti audi friendship bracelet.

[valyrfia]

Ferarri isnt winning shit lmao. The bald man is just as spineless as his predecessor and I personally think charles should just start ripping people's throats out with his teeth

guys love you but I'm not going to entertain anti-Fred takes just because he's not explicitly taking Charles' side in every interview. I think we all underestimate just how much he had to gut that team and rebuild it anew just to clear out the Binotto rot. He's building that team around Charles, he wants a Charles WDC MORE than most of us, dare I say.

[petit-papillion]

I can't help but play devil's advocate in my head whenever I see those Charles stats because yes, he's absolutely incredible, alongside the greats, but I imagine all the anti-Charles comments coming in going, "well front row starts aren't wins, so it's a useless stat".

And I started thinking, when has Carlos ever had a seemingly 'useless' stat that was positive about his results? Did he have a streak of consistency? Because I can't think of any.

Charles might have a lot of front row, pole positions, top 5 stats that people undermine, but it's a hell of a lot more than what the other drivers on the grid have. He's undeniably one of the most talented drivers.

Sure, I see where people are coming from when they say useless stats, points are earned in the race, etc. But if they're calling him out for being inconsistent: qualifying front row 7x in a row is a stat showing them the opposite. Unfortunately, I think he's made it look easy, and people just can't accept that he is working miracles in cars that don't necessarily have that pace over 50-60 laps.

And if Charles doesn't put it on pole/front row, he gets team orders to sit back during the race and not overtake (even if he has better race pace), and then he is called out for not being aggressive enough, and Ferrari firing the wrong driver, etc., etc. Mind you, when he did try to pass Carlos in Monza, people were also up in arms calling him too agggressive and risking both cars getting taken out, so he can't please people no matter what he does.

Here are just some of the things I've seen people spout recently:

I agree with you, Anon, Charles is incredibly talented, and despite some abysmal years at Ferrari under Binotto, he has achieved more than most of his peers on the grid. However, I think the expectations of Charles are extremely high, especially being a Ferrari driver. And unless we were able to compare each F1 driver's abilities to one another with all of them driving the same car, there will always be "but's". "But Alex cannot possibly win in a Williams." "But the McLaren is not as fast as the Ferrari." "But George could win as much as Max if he was in a Red Bull." Etc.

And despite him easily outperforming so many of the drivers he competed with before coming to F1, I think Charles is always going to be compared to Max. Who is also undeniably talented, but who also had a very driven dad who pushed him to train incredibly hard, who had connections & funds, plus F1 insider knowledge, all allowing Max to jump ahead and gain way more experience at a lot faster rate than his peers. And when Max is considered the standard Charles has to live up to, even getting P2 in WDC still gets you called "overrated" and "a mid-level driver".

[finoallafine97]

Verstappen humiliates binotto: "Charles very fast, hard tires were a mistake"

[fadingluminaryruins]

Please, give to this boy a miracle and a hug. 💔

(He looks so resigned. It’s heartbreaking…)

[balaclavacharles]

And fuck you Mattia.

[apr1lias]

Ferrari apparently spent 2 years building this car, there is no fucking way that they’ve spent that amount of time creating this piece of shit. Charles and Carlos both deserve much better than Binotto and whatever myth he’s sold them about the car and the championship this year because they’ve been lied to about the resources they’ve got.

[alexalblondo]

can you tell me about binotto, toto, mick and sebastian in germany at fp? I missed 2019 and 2020 entirely.

I wanna tell a fun story but actually it isn’t that exciting?

Last year for the german gp the FDA was planning on running their then juniors Callum and Mick during the FP1 … sadly though they didn’t take into account that it was the Eifel in Oktober which meant fog and awful weather and no driving for anyone :/

And okay, I think it was the anniversary of one of Michael‘s records or wins or sth?

Either way Mick had a special helmet for the occasion to commemorate that (which in itself is already great)

And well, during the FP that never was Mick and Seb met up in front of … I‘mma lie and say the Ferrari garage? And Toto was also there?

So the three had a lil get together in front of one of the garages and Mick showed them his helmet and they had fun and it was cute and all and maybe it made me a lil emotional for them and all

And well, fast forward a few days (or weeks urgh, Idk, I have shitty memory) to Binotto having a hissy fit to the media about how rUDE and disrespectful Seb was being talking to another team’s teamboss and letting himself be filmed doing that I mean? How dare he??? How could he wow?

And that‘s it. Sorry, not really that exciting :/

EDIT: I have been reminded that it was Seb who had the special Michael helmet and not Mick, wuuups

[becometheknifemaster]

I am going through the 7 stages of grief. But what enrages me the most is the fact Sen is leaving the sport that he loves so much while that Harry potter from Wal mart stays at the team Seb loves so much

[f1-unpopularopinions]

I've read a lot of fanfiction in my life and I'm pretty much not squicked out by almost anything. Weird kinks, whatever. Until I got into F1 and found out that people fantasize about Mattia Binotto. I had a genuine visceral reaction to the thought. *shudders*

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